Wie viel Veränderung hält die Gesellschaft aus?
Artist Julius von Bismarck and SPD politician Rita Schwarzelühr-Sutter engaged in a deep dialogue about the societal transition from a fossil-fuel-based to a post-fossil society. During a live podcast hosted by Monopol editor-in-chief Elke Buhr at the BMW Foundation in Berlin, von Bismarck challenged traditional notions of environmental protection, arguing that the very concept of "nature" should be abolished to foster a new relationship with the world. The discussion bridged the gap between artistic radicalism and political pragmatism, touching on existential threats, global inequality, and the role of technology like AI.
This exchange highlights the increasing role of contemporary artists as intellectual catalysts in urgent political and ecological debates. By positioning von Bismarck’s experiential and conceptual approach alongside Schwarzelühr-Sutter’s legislative perspective, the event underscores how the art world provides a unique space for "exnovation"—the dismantling of old systems—and the creation of new cultural narratives necessary for survival in a changing climate.